The Story of My Love

August 1, 2007 - 12:57pm

My love was born at my mother’s breast and in my father’s strong arms. It was a sucking, insatiable, infantile love. I was happily curled in the warm embrace of pure need.

My love was shaped in early days by my need to perform. I worked hard at home, in sports, and at school. I had a first-born child's natural sense that people would love me if I excelled.

My love turned inward and became hidden and personal with a series of best friends. Michael and Mickey and Lance and Steve and Mark and Kenny. We claimed the rights to our own lives and our own loves. We stood together against the world with our secret clubs and inside jokes.

My love thrashed against my arm like a tethered falcon when I discovered the beauty of ponytails and freckled smiles. A series of little girls first turned my head and then turned my guts into jelly. The falcon burst its tether and screeched, circling and diving, causing me to throw myself to the ground in a panic. Bonnie and Carmen and Kathy and Tracy and Diane and Laura and Julie and Elma. How I ached and longed and cried and failed and watched from afar. Waves of feeling rose up in my chest and cast me face-down upon my bed. There was no end to it and no relief because it felt so good and it hurt so bad.

In time I learned the proper words to coax the falcon back to my arm. I slipped the tether around its foot and paraded it about for a few years with an imagined sophistication. Oh yes, I had it all figured out for a time.

And then I went to college and met a woman with a swinging ponytail and brown eyes that were tender and crinkly when she smiled. She sat across from me at the Baylor cafeteria, and when she talked she revealed a certain, indescribable spark of personality that proved irresistible to me. My falcon took one look at her, snapped its tether, and disappeared over the horizon, never to return.

I became foolish again, like a small boy. She carried a basket instead of a backpack. Suddenly I loved baskets, the weave and feel and smell of them. She had pale skin, so pale skin became the loveliest skin in the world as far as I was concerned. Once I was able to pick her out of a crowd of young women in shorts because I recognized her knees. She had a smile that could light up my heart and brown eyes that were too beautiful and powerful for me to understand. I wanted to keep her. I wanted her to be mine. I wanted to hold her and defend her with my life against anything in the world that would harm her.

I had her for a few months, and then I lost her. I was inconsolable and fell into a time of loneliness. I could not feel love for any other woman. I worked. I paid my bills. I prepared to go to seminary.

Then an unexpected letter arrived, causing my heart to thrash about in my chest. There was a near-collision in a supermarket aisle, and then we were sitting on the floor of her apartment, both frightened. She of hurting me and I of being hurt. But our hands moved across the carpet like small creatures with wills of their own. Our fingers entwined, and all the powers of joy and fear and pain and love came together in that moment.

My love became our love. I felt like I had arrived, but the story of my love was only getting started. I now understand that we knew almost nothing of love at that time. For our love had not yet faced the 12 labors of Hercules.

We had to survive financial crisis and the slow loss of the passion of youth. We had to survive the exhaustion of work and responsibilities. And then there came three children, three sucking vortices of need. We had to cling to each other, blue eyes locked on brown, swearing before the heavens that we weren’t going to let these three angelic demons take everything from us. For it is the nature of children to take everything and the duty of parents not to let them.

Years passed, and we aged together. We learned to love our softening bodies with their new demands and needs. Sometimes, when we were very tired, we would say that it was the two of us against the whole world. Friends would change, the children would leave, but our secret club was forever.

Then a tragedy happened. I woke up in a bathtub filled with ice. There were stitches on the left side of my chest and a note that said, “Sorry, but we needed your heart.” I arose, dripping cold water on the floor. I had the face and the look of Gordon, but there was something absent from my eyes. My trademark silliness was gone. And I could not feel any of the happy things. I couldn't feel love or joy. I was numb inside and sometimes angry for no reason.

I carried on by the powers of obligation, duty, and shame. I put one foot in front of the other. I smiled at home and at church. I said the right things to the children. I tried to force myself to be myself, but that never really works. Jeanene learned to live with the zombie version of Gordon, which is its own kind of tragedy.

The doctor called it depression, and he gave me pills. They worked pretty well for a long time. I was happy and my boyish silliness returned. Jeanene and I began reconnecting. Our hands had to crawl across a carpet of fear to find each other, but they did and things were good.

This is so hard to write, but I fear something is wrong again. I’ve slowly lost the ability to feel happiness or love. Once again I have all of the words and none of the feeling. My need to be alone is becoming overpowering. I come home and want to go to bed or sit in a corner. The idea of interacting with people is painful even to think about. Jeanene and the three sisters obviously know something is wrong.

Damn it! I don’t want to do this again. I’m going to have to go back to the doctor and start the process over again. I hate the idea of medication. I hate thinking of myself being dependant on medication.

“Did you remember to pick up your medication?”

“Has anyone seen my medication?”

“Did I take my medicine yet today?”

Medication medication medication medication. Fucking medication. MY medication. Like it’s some treasured personal possession. Like it’s now an essential part of me, like a leg or something.

But I'm going to the doctor. Yes sir. I'm not hesitating this time. I already have the appointment. And I'm going to do whatever he tells me to do. If he gives me pills (and he will) I’ll smile and say, "Thank you, sir. May I have another?"

Because this is the story of my love. Do you understand what I'm saying? This is my love. My love for God and for ideas and for truth and for our church and for writing and for my friends and for the three sisters.

And for Jeanene. It's her love too. I have to remember that. I owe her my best effort to be the man she married.

If I am allowed to live a full live, then half of the story of my love is yet to be told. And I definitely want to be present and alert for part two.

rlp

 

Submitted by Clare Lane on August 1, 2007 - 1:35pm.

I'm sitting in a cubicle quietly crying.

Thank you Gordon

"God? I hope so"

Submitted by scout on August 1, 2007 - 1:48pm.

Do whatever you must. Fight the good fight. Your wife and daughters deserve the best of you, and you deserve the joy that comes with giving it to them.

Take care of yourself.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 1:57pm.

Round after round. I know how it is. I'm sorry.

The black dog is haunting my doorstep again too.

Submitted by Pascale Soleil on August 1, 2007 - 1:59pm.

That was me, above.
Pascale's Wager

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 1:59pm.

Gordon,

As you visit the battle that is both old and new for you, please know you are surrounded by our thoughts and prayers. And, above all, you are surrounded by the presence of Christ.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 1:59pm.

It is worth the fight. I know you know that, even when it is this hard. Do whatever you need to do to get back to color and life and love. I hated the pills too, but I hated the misery more.

zorra

Submitted by Lisa in Austin on August 1, 2007 - 2:01pm.

Take care of yourself. Whatever it takes, take care of yourself. You'll be in my prayers.

Submitted by Keith on August 1, 2007 - 2:21pm.

As GM Ford (yeah, that's his real name) said after seeing my first short film:

Silly is underrated.

Looking forward to seeing yours again--and I notice your response time to symptom onset getting shorter. This is a good thing for a mortal.

Which is all a lame way of saying feel better.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 2:41pm.

I empathize completely. But I must know, how was your heart ripped from you when you awoke in a tub of ice? I must know...I must know...

Submitted by rlp on August 1, 2007 - 3:19pm.

That's just a description of what it is like to suddenly not feel things. As if someone sneaked over to your house and removed your heart - using heart at a metaphore for emotions, as we often do in our culture.

Submitted by cliopatra on August 1, 2007 - 2:49pm.

Sometimes medication isn't enough. I'll spare you the details of my story, but I will tell you that I saw a therapist for 2 years with no results. Then I went to a psychiatrist, who diagnosed me and put me on medication. Once I started on the medication I went back to therapy and all of the sudden? It made sense. It worked. I took the pills for a year, haven't been medicated in 12 years, save for a brief 6-month stint after 9/11.

The medication gave me the clarity to understand and be able to use the tools that my therapist was giving me: the shovel to dig me out of my depression. Now I know and recognize when it's coming, or when I'm in it, and how to get out.

Some days are harder than others, but for the most part I more able to control and cope with my emotional swings than I was way back when.

I highly recommend finding a good therapist in addition to your medication.

Good luck!

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 2:59pm.

praying for you and your ... for God's healing and Shalom.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 3:07pm.

The whole Portico family is praying for you and family Gordon.

Rodger Sellers

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 3:19pm.

Praying for you and yours. You will be silly again.

"I owe her my best effort to be the man she married." -- I think I know what you mean here, but remember that time and experiences change us all, including Jeanene. Just be the best you that you can now be. I am almost certain Jeanene will love that.

-g

Submitted by rlp on August 1, 2007 - 3:25pm.

Aahhhhh,

See, I appreciate all this, truly. But I hate drawing attention to this situation. I know, that seems impossible since I posted it. It's like I have this weird commitment to tell the truth about myself, but then I don't want any encouragement or "we're with you" stuff.

You know, it started out as a whole different piece. Literally the history of how love developed in me. I started this a month or so ago. Then I opened it today and it turned into this.

So thank you so much. I'm going to try to receive all this nice stuff without feeling weird.

Submitted by Keith on August 1, 2007 - 7:59pm.

Weird is okay.

Submitted by scout on August 2, 2007 - 9:49am.

As weird as it may be, I think you're doing a public service here. You're able to articulate depression in a way many people can't. I'm one of those people who tend to have no tolerance for depressed people, including my mother and (sometimes) my husband. Sure, I try to be kind, but inside I'm rolling my eyes and telling them to suck it up. In fact, I find myself avoiding people who make me feel like I have to constantly cheer them up. That's probably my biggest pet peeve. Intellectually, I know that there's more to depression than just being a downer, but that doesn't make it easier to live with a depressed loved one. You're putting a human face on this disease and giving poetic detail to its symptoms. That may not be your intention, but it is certainly appreciated.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 12:16pm.

I could see that the piece changed. I wondered as I read, "Did he write the first part before and finish it recently?"
Old Poet

Submitted by rbarenblat on August 1, 2007 - 3:28pm.

Receiving love is almost never easy, so I can see how getting these comments might be a little overwhelming.

This is a hell of an essay. I love its lyricism. The falcon metaphor especially resonates for me -- oh, Lord, yes!

Anyhow, thinking of you. As I do. With many blessings.

***
"Why write unless you praise the sacred places?" -- Richard Howard

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 3:59pm.

For some of us (me, at least) the wave of feeling and not feeling continues to ebb and flow. I'm 56 and have been doing this since my early 30's. The grandest thing for me is initiating the going for help or getting meds adjusted sooner rather than later. I have always heard that anti-depressant meds "get you moving" ;they don't cure the problem.
All to say, be proud of yourself for recognizing the change in YOU!
Be well,
~Mad (a lurker)

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 4:07pm.

And you will, Brother, and you will...

Michael

Submitted by textjunkie on August 1, 2007 - 4:49pm.

I love when you write these. These are not glib, these are not easy (admittedly hardly any of your stuff is!). You say you don't feel anything, but somehow you write with such passion you move many of us to tears--I hope it helps, somehow, to reconnect with yourself, to express these things.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 9:02pm.

Praying. Been there myself, and praying.

-- a geeky rlp fan-girl who interviewed you several months back

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 9:05pm.

Hey RLP:

Good for you for recognizing the symptoms. And good for you for making the appointment.

If it helps any, depression is a disease like diabetes is a disease. Medication, diet, and exercise all play a role in treating/controlling depression, as well as diabetes.

I know that medication is a hassle, but you're lucky! Some people never even get a good response to medication (I should know, I'm a pharmacist). That your depression responds to medication, that's a blessing.

Good luck and take care of yourself so that you can be the man for your wife and children they need.

Also, try reading the book "I Don't Want to Talk About It" by Dr. Terrence Real. I highly recommend it, it's about men & depression. It helped my husband a lot.

Submitted by Geodog on August 1, 2007 - 9:14pm.

I don't have any advice to offer, but know that lots of folks are sending healing thoughts and hopes your way, including me.

Peace be with you.

Geodog

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 10:17pm.

I too made an appointment to see the Dr about re-arising depression. Life is losing its colour, I can't focus, and I am too tired to care. But more than that, I know that this is not acceptable - I don't have to stay here.

Bloody depression - it comes and goes, with or without reason - but it is a part of my life, my battle.

So the bell for the next round has rung, time to go on with the fight - but I can't do it on my own, I need the help that the medication gives to stand and fight.

Doesn't help to add menopause to the equation!!!

Janet McKinney

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 10:32pm.

"They're baaaaaack...", courtesy of Poltergeist.

Tried myself to live a med-free life. I titrated off real slow, just like I was supposed to. After about 3 months with no meds, realized I was depressed and pissed off at everyone--not to mention a hair trigger anger. I really didn't want to be one of "those people"--dependent on the meds. Made me seem like a hopeless and f-ed up case... Well, being on meds was better than living like that. Made an appointment with the head shrinker and he wrote me a script. Life is better.

Chief Wanker

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 1, 2007 - 11:42pm.

Four things. That was neat to read, first of all. It is cool to see that you can articulate that so well and that you care so much for the people in your life.

Second, buy and read a book called Enzymes For Autism And Other Neurological Conditions by Karen DeFelice. Amazon carries it. It may not be apparent on first glance why that applies, but much of depression starts from the same triggers as many neurological problems. In many ways depression really is a neurological and chemical problem itself. It may help you find a way back to a balanced place where you need less meds again, instead of more.

Third, look into hefty multivitamins and the raw food movement. Some of the reasons will be apparent when you read the book listed above. But cooking plant materials destroys things you need to digest them and things you need to function. It imbalances nature slowly over time, which contributes to things like depression, especially when we live in a place were food quality and nutrient density is at an all time low. Cooking some things also creates more toxins for your body to have to clean up. The more you eat diverse raw plant material the better you may find yourself feeling without meds assistance.

Fourth, get yourself tested for a vitamin D deficiency. There might also be mineral deficiencies such as magnesium (which can cause a calcium deficiency, even if you're consuming calcium rich foods) or potassium. Getting the blood work done if you haven't may show you a clue as to what is going awry that is leading to more needs for meds. And many doctors skip those steps at this point. Have them check thyroid function too, if they haven't. And if you snore much or have trouble sleeping or feel tired all the time or those kinds of things, it can be important to be tested for a sleep disorder, too. It can give you back power over not needing meds to find those kinds of causes and fix them instead.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 6:04am.

I love you.

-Larry V

Submitted by bobbie on August 2, 2007 - 6:29am.

you haven't lost all of your words, these were so beautiful. i am so sorry. i too have known the devil that is depression. parker palmer talks about it pushing him down onto the ground where it was safe to stand. if you haven't read his words on depression they are very comforting.

you and your love are in my prayers.

Submitted by Third Grade Mind on August 2, 2007 - 7:11am.

I love you...let me know what I can do.

Hugh

Submitted by Jenny Valent on August 2, 2007 - 7:17am.

Fucking medication is right!!!

I mean, if it really works for you, then far be it from me to say don't do it. But for my husband, who has struggled with depression (and other conditions) for 20-plus years - and on medication(s) for most of that time, it only got worse...

He found his answer in natural foods, supplements, and, most notably, acupuncture - the acupuncture is slower to show results (aka, not a "quick fix"), but he has experienced gradual, increasing emotional wellness over these past few months of treatments.

If the drugs don't work, there ARE alternatives...

Love to you, Gordon :)

http://www.myspace.com/ashvajenny

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 10:05am.

Accupunture and chinese herbs have worked for me too. And exercise. I can't say enough for the mood altering and lasting effect of vigourous exercise.

--harper

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 9:47am.

If you knew how much your site has touched the hearts of your readers and challenged our understanding of God, it might provide the first baby steps back from the darkness that pervades your present thoughts.
(Phillipians 4: 4-8)

George

Submitted by Clare Lane on August 2, 2007 - 9:51am.

I understand how hard it is not only to admit but also explain
your depression. I remember when, still in the throes of depression, my boyfriend and I broke up. He asked me if I was sad that we no longer were together and I told him that I was unable to feel anything anymore...his response was "I feel sorry for you". It's funny when you want to feel something so bad that you're begging to know pain.

I'm ok now. Lots of prayer, some therapy, and -hopefully Tom Cruise doesn't here this- vitamins and exercise.

Keep fighting the good fight.

"God? I hope so"

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 10:18am.

While I'm sitting here reading your post, a bottle of anti-depressive medication is gathering dust in the bathroom cabinet. I can't remember the last time I took my meds. Mostly because I don't think to take them, not with a 2 year old son and a 3 month old son and a brain that (without said meds or a solid night of sleep since the last snowfall) is losing its ability to set priorities and to see the world as it really is.

Now you've got me thinking about it, and STILL the urge is to keep surfing and let the bottle continue its slow migration to the back of the cabinet. I hear you, RLP. Medication sucks. But I'm going to go take it now because my husband needs it and my kids need it. The prescription's in my name but it ain't for me. Pray God that some day it will be for me, but it won't be today, or tomorrow, or next week.

(sound of crickets)

Now I've taken today's dose. Thanks for the kick in the ass. I hope you'll follow through with kicking your own as promised.

- Marli

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 11:09am.

And writing.... the writing helps, too.

Your honesty is good. Hard and good. And you do it well. And you put your name on it. I wish I was so courageous.

Orangeblossoms

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 12:29pm.

As someone who's family has noticed that same change happening to him and begged him to go onto meds, though I hate them so much, your post has made me rethink who deserves what, and what I can or can't offer to others.

I'm sure it is awkward reading all this, but then again... some of the best things in life tend to be awkward. Birth, sex, first love... all kinds of stuff. Maybe it's supposed to be that way.

Grace and peace,
Josh

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 1:29pm.

"This is so hard to write, but I fear something is wrong again. I’ve slowly lost the ability to feel happiness or love. Once again I have all of the words and none of the feeling. My need to be alone is becoming overpowering. I come home and want to go to bed or sit in a corner. The idea of interacting with people is painful even to think about."

Pastor Gordon,
Nancy from San Antonio here.
I just want you to know as a fellow sufferer of depression, I UNDERSTAND. All of the things you have described have been me more times than I can count. Yes, the fucking medication. I take it too. But sometimes one will lose effectiveness, and so the doc will probably need to increase yours, or try something new. It's always fun. NOT. I know the struggle brother. Believe me. Depression is being alive, yet not living. I know it is the reason that I drink. When I'm numb, I don't give a shit. But really I do. Please do all you can for you and your family's sake to get well again. And I appreciate you for airing your struggles, because at least you will know that you are not alone, there are others out there like you, like me. Shalom.....

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 1:44pm.

My wife is going through this. You help me to understand where she is right now. Thank you.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 2:17pm.

"Love is like a rainbow, as much as it seems to be real, it's all in your mind"

-Angra

It seems that the brain gets stuck into a loop, it gets conditioned to behave in a certain way, to release the chemicals that trigger emotions in a set manner.

Sometimes it cycles through depression.

Man, you take the drugs because you love your family and want to be what you were for them, but people change, and perhaps now is the time for change.

There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy. When I face the depths of my own depression, mired in the pit of mutual loathing, desperation, and hopelessness, I try to see the other world, the one that exists beyond everything I have ever known in my life, all the bullshit, and the pain, and fear, and desperation for salvation. There is something more out there, and maybe this is your subconscious trying to wake you up.

Do me a favor Preach, pick up a copy of "The Downward Spiral" by Nine Inch Nails, and listen to it through, all the way to the bottom.

"God is not love"

-Angra

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 2:31pm.

Prayers and thoughts are with you.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 2:45pm.

When I stop by here and find emotions so well articulated, I remember why I come by.

I wish you the best.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 3:28pm.

Have you considered that your diet may be contributing to your depression? Chemical preservatives, artificial sweetners, etc. have been known to cause depression.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 3:50pm.

hang in there, rlp. got a 17 yr old son on meds for crohns and arthritis. lots of meds. he really tires of taking them, but he knows he cannot function w/o them. thanks for your writing. i think you help me understand where others are coming from so often. keep the faith. blessings.

Submitted by Jenny Valent on August 3, 2007 - 6:51am.

Crohns Disease...have you ever read "The Maker's Diet"? The author suffered with severe Crohns for years - it's very compelling...

http://www.myspace.com/ashvajenny

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 4, 2007 - 8:03am.

I suffered for years from ulcerative colitis, which is related to Crohns. I urge you to talk with your son about trying The Makers Diet, or a gluten free, dairy free diet. There is absolutely no downside to giving it a try for a few weeks! It really helped me. Good luck and healing prayers to him.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 4, 2007 - 8:06am.

PS I took the drugs that were prescribed to me, too!

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 5, 2007 - 12:34pm.

I have a friend who was sitting outside for the first time in years in Washington D.C. in APRIL (pollen, layers and layers, and layers...) after being on the Maker's diet for only a short time. Being allergic to everything is pretty depressing -- so the diet helped with that too.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 5:40pm.

Hey Gordon, have you ever seen a therapist about this stuff?
It might help. Many people benafit from therapy.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 7:16pm.

RLP, If you're like me, you think, Damn, not again. ... with the comments, everything I read here reminds me of what others have suggested to me: get good tools for your toolbox. Your toolbox will not look exactly the same as mine; for instance, mine contains: prayer, medication, talk therapy, a support network, frequent exercise, vitamins and a good diet. I agree--Parker Palmer is a resource, and Henri Nouwen's books.
Yours may contain some but not all of those, and others.
Hang in there. Remember how much you are loved.
Allison

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 8:00pm.

you know what? the reason i resist treatment sometimes is because i'm tired of there being "something wrong" with me...tired of trying to be fixed. sometimes i just don't want to have to try and get well anymore...or let someone else "diagnose" me...but, i still take my meds.

thanks for sharing.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 8:48pm.

Fuck the blog. Fuck the lot of us. You already know your priority.

I know that admitting the need for meds and the daily grind of meds in a public sense, for some reason, totally sucks when you have to take them. I, sadly, do NOT understand why this is so.

This is because I live with Bi-Polar man who refuses to admit he is Bi-Polar. He's just recently gone on Lamictal as well as his Wellbutrin, which is producing positive effects. BUT he has taken to hiding his pills, when seeing his pills in the medicine cabinet had given me a blessed sense of security and some modicum of respect for his courage in trying a new med. Hiding them took that ALL away. And I'll know when he goes off them, which he does, being Bi-Polar, because he hurts us or destroys things in the house and yard.

I tell you here that the divorce will come when our son is old enough to handle it. Because the refusal to deal with the need for meds and the refusal to admit what is, is the price he is paying for his need for secrecy. I have been forced to disconnect. Not by my choice. But by his.

You are NOT like this. You will do whatever is necessary to keep your family whole. I tell you all this to present the flip side. The irrevocable destructive side. It's a slippery slope.,

Take your meds. And God Bless your courage.

(You likely know who this is, but I can't go public. We've 'chatted' before)

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 2, 2007 - 11:17pm.

man, there's a lot of pain here! I love you more.

Larry V.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 3, 2007 - 7:36am.

In my own personal experience, I learned that depression is an over-developed sense of self. When I was in a major depression for four years (and didn't know it) all I thought about was myself, my pain, my suffering, and my fears of being hated by everyone around me. When I shifted my focus (with the help of a wonderful therapist) to other people and to God, my depression began to subside.

All of that is to say that I think you may already be on the road to recovery, because you are not just thinking about yourself, but you are thinking about everyone around you who you love.

You will beat this.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 3, 2007 - 8:38am.

RLP, the feelings that have deserted you have apparently found their way to me. And, it seems, to many other readers of your blog, who are feeling all kinds of things as they read your evocative, centred description of Love/Eros in its rawest, most awkward and authentic moments...and as you give voice to Love's shadow, Thanatos, the unspeakable silence...

We are here, with you, some of us in tears, others transported into their own emotional being in a new way; and sitting with the discomfort of recognition that we, your readers, are in a way the ones who take your heart and leave you in stitches. How can we give something back, other than the prayers we offer for the wellbeing of your soul and the return of your feeling heart? Whatever it takes? For that matter, how can we give something back to anyone who has suffered emotionally while making truth and beauty available to others - to Mozart, to Tchaikovsy, to van Gogh...because, to me, that is what your writing does.

I'm a therapist, and basically agree with those who've praised therapy - well, I would - but I don't have any comment about what you should do. In any case, you seem to know...I just wish it didn't have to hurt so much.

Sally D
South Africa

Submitted by rlp on August 3, 2007 - 9:00am.

Sally,

I hope you come back and read this. Something in your language attracts me to your wisdom. I have resisted the idea of pouring my heart into my writing being one reason for my depression. Probably because I don't like the idea of the "suffering artist." Plenty of people suffer more and work harder. I feel fortunate to write.

And also, a part of me is afraid that someone or something or anything might try to take away my writing. Sometimes it is all I have. I wish to God I had an hour to talk to you. You would be safe. You live in another part of the world. You don't know me. You don't know my family. I could unburden myself. But you are far away. I need to find someone like you here. But I keep putting it off for some reason.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 3, 2007 - 12:20pm.

Dear RLP-- Gordon, If I may. I am not Sally. But I would love to disabuse you of the notion that your writing encourages this depression. Rather, I imagine (I know?) that it is your creativity and expression through your writing that saves you-- that saves many writers, artists, musicians.... This good gift of God.

Your writing sustains not only you, but many of us.

I just forked over a ton of money to see a therapist, myself. It was a really hard decision to make. I needed to. I need this safe space in my life.

--Orangeblossoms

Submitted by Keith on August 3, 2007 - 2:23pm.

This is something like draft 10 of this comment, which was supposed to be casual--even funny. It's obnoxious instead because I don't know how to say these things without lecturing, so do me a favor, please, and try to hear somebody awkwardly trying to pass something on.

It's almost impossible to destroy the ability to write. Mostly it's about the ability to think, which isn't affected by therapy, and the ability to feel, which is possibly increased by therapy.

Here's my weak anecdotal evidence. The first six months of my twins' lives, I averaged 2.5 hours of sleep per night. I was terrified that I'd stop being a writer, and determined to write even though I could barely stand. I was also drinking much more than previously, because it somehow helped anesthetize against the horrible sleep deprivation, and I had MS symptoms that made it impossible to keep a complex novel-length story concept straight in my head.

I wrote at a TV tray set up next to a cat box in the kitchen. I couldn't tell where I was in the story half the time. I couldn't have told you much about it at all, in fact. But I got words down every night--or anyway, I think it was close to every night. I have very little memory of this period.

When the sleep deprivation began to ease, and the MS symptoms eased too, I read what I'd written.

There were some really weird continuity errors--people existing in the wrong decades, for example, and some other bizarre artifacts of an incoherent mind--but a few days of fixing, and they were fixed. The writing itself is some of my best.

My point is that you can't hurt the writing. Not with therapy. Not, in my case, with treatment worse than we're allowed to give prisoners of war, plus a neurological disorder, plus more scotch than I'd seen in my previous 40 years of existence. Your kind of ability to write isn't a symptom; it's inherent. You have a set of inborn skills that work together in this way. You've trained and refined it over the years, and you've learned rhetorical tricks and working techniques, but it's part of your personality, or genetics, or soul, or however you want to frame it. You won't hurt it. You won't diminish it. You won't demean it. Light won't kill it. Exposure won't kill it. It's yours; you have it; it has you. It is you.

Therapy with a lousy therapist will be lousy. It won't kill the writing.

Therapy with a good therapist will be good. It won't kill the writing.

You can't kill the writing.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 4, 2007 - 4:34am.

Hi Gordon

FWIW, Keith said what I was thinking - the writing is you and cannot be lost as long as you have words at all. It doesn't condemn you to suffer any more than Mozart's gift condemned him to suffer; when Mozart was full of the joys of life his music poured out of him, just as full of grace...Because the gift didn't really belong to him in the first place. There's nothing to account for it but Holy Spirit...Many times people in the dark shadows of depression can't find words, and those who try to find the words for them, don't understand what it's like in the dark place. You have been there, are there, and yet you find the words still... Maybe it would help you now, to seek out some of these works of art that seem to defy sorrow and death - van Gogh's starry nights and sunflowers, Mozart's Requiem, Tchaikovsky's Romeo and Juliet...and the poems or stories or academic writings for that matter, that are also children of pain.

Sometimes, I suppose, artists of all kinds do suffer more simply because they feel more. They are often synaesthetic, if that's the right term - blending sensory, emotional, spiritual and cognitive traces in uniquely personal ways that aren't available to those without significant creative gifts; and often the world is not kind to the exceptionally gifted in any area of life. But that is not to say that their suffering is necessary, simply that they take it and make yet more beauty out of it.

Depression can certainly have an impact on the expression of the gift - I'm thinking here of a highly talented chef I once met who'd lost her sense of flavour when deeply depressed - all she could taste was salt, sweet, sour, spicy. She could still cook, but she couldn't experience...like deaf Beethoven, being turned by gentle hands to acknowledge the rapturous applause for the symphony he never heard...And so the trained, ingrained artistic habits that Keith described lead the way when sense or feeling is absent. I would tend to think that unless proven otherwise, for the artist this is a way of holding on and being held to/by life and love. And in the case of depression, even though it may return (though less capable of devastation once the individual and family have learned how to respond to it), in time it will recede whether through medication, therapy, complementary health, nutrition or just running its course; and that when it does ebb away, fullness of life will return like Spring from frozen Winter.

I may be able to help you find a therapist who'll be a good 'fit' (through links to people who are interested in narrative approaches as I am), so let me know if you'd like that.

Sally D

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 4, 2007 - 6:34pm.

Gordon,

I must have tried a half-dozen therapists/counselors in my time -- It's like first dates a lot of the time. I would encourage you to look at AAPC, not your denomination, not your town (community). Most of the people in AAPC understand the nature of the call (job) and thus the nature of the care that is needed. And the relationship cannot be a colleague type relationship; this person needs to be your "priest" as it were.

RM

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 3, 2007 - 8:43am.

It took almost 10 years and 6-8 different drugs before the perfect combination was found for me. Don't give up.

Claud

Submitted by Erin Phillips on August 3, 2007 - 11:06am.

I keep coming back and reading this and thinking I want to comment. But then I think about how weird it is for you to have people you don't know reading such personal stuff and commenting.

There is a scene in Shadowlands where Lewis or his student says, 'we read to know that we are not alone.' You keep people from feeling alone in their struggles whether it is with depression or with a loved one who struggles with depression. That is a great gift. So even though I feel a little weird writing you knowing that you feel weird reading I wanted to say thank you.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 3, 2007 - 1:57pm.

I conqure, and btw Gordon, if you have not seen "Shadowlands" it is a GREAT movie.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 3, 2007 - 2:06pm.

Thank you,thank you-- for your glorious and lyrical writing (and I agree--it is probably what saves you from the abyss, not it's cause) But thank you for your honesty. I suffered from clinical depression in l969 (after leaving funadmentalism and almost losing my family--divorce was not far off). I hid it, for years, on the assumption it was a personal failure (which at that time and in that place, it was!)
I am on medication. But because I feel "normal" (whatever that is) on the meds and really really awful without them, I do take them regularly and thank God for them...
Know you are much loved, by us who do not even "know" you, but know you better than many people we see and love every day. much love and prayers Gordon. Love to your family too...Gail

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 3, 2007 - 2:42pm.

thanks for sharing, and many hugs your way.
acm

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 3, 2007 - 3:13pm.

So wait, did you meet your wife at the supermarket?
Did you crash into each others carts? :-)

Submitted by rlp on August 3, 2007 - 7:34pm.

Here's the rest of the story. She broke up with me. 18 months later I had moved on but really couldn't become interested in anyone else. Perhaps I hadn't moved on, but I had accepted and believed that Jeanene was gone.

And then she sent me a letter. The minute I realized it was from her my heart started pounding in my chest. She said she missed me, and that she was going to seminary and hoped to see me there.

So I moved to Fort Worth thinking that I would run into her sometime maybe that first week of class. And I hoped perhaps we might even begin dating again. The first day I arrived in Fort Worth, I went to the grocery store to get supplies for the house I was renting. I went around a corner and almost ran into her. She was there doing the same thing.

We were together by that night and ever since.

Submitted by abiding on August 3, 2007 - 4:25pm.

I too know the beast and struggle with it often. It fueled my drinking in the past. I find myself feeling extremely guilty when it strikes because compared to the majority of the people in the world, my life is very, very good. I continually ask myself, "What right do I have to feel this way?" I guess I take some comfort in knowing that it's not something I choose. Comfort and at the same time pain...oh if I could simply choose to make it go away. I take medication (Wellbutrin)every day and that helps. The past two weeks have been a struggle though so my doctor increased my dosage. I'm hoping it kicks in soon.

I suppose I'm being selfish but thank you for being willing to share your struggle. Knowing I'm not alone gives me hope. I'm praying for you...

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 3, 2007 - 4:45pm.

I know youd prefer us not to be here commenting (or at least, that's how I read your earlier intervention in the comments) but we've travelled this road with you, and we care about your journey, which illuminates and gives meaning to ours...So I just need to send love and prayers, neither solicited I know, but the only possible response to the sadness of someone I feel I know, and know I care about.
Blessings

Submitted by revdlou on August 3, 2007 - 5:41pm.

Wow, just wow. That's all I can say.
That was such an evocative piece of writing, all the more poignant, for the fact that you allowed yourself to tell your own vulnerable story.
I wish we were all so honest with ourselves, so we could be as real to one another - and esp. to those who mean the most to us.
Thank you.
Shalom.
Louise.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 4, 2007 - 12:08am.

Gordon,

When I lost my wife of twenty years to breast cancer in 1998, I fell into a very deep hole. She had been my compass, my calendar, my alarm clock, my best friend. I now had a 14-year-old daughter to finish raising.

I could not climb out of the hole. The harder I climbed, the deeper I fell. I finally went to my doctor and he prescribed meds.

Not everything is back to normal, but then I'm not sure what the hell "normal" is anymore. I've remarried and have a great wife, but life isn't the same and won't be. It has taken me this long to realize that life won't return to what it was before.

I don't enjoy having to depend on the meds to get by every day, but I must. I have an incredibly short fuse when I miss a dose and am a complete bear to live with. The meds have also done quite a number on my libido. I know being in my 50s may be part of the problem but, as BB King so beautifully put it, "the thrill is gone."

I don't like it that life sucks. I really don't. Getting on with my life has been one challenge after another. I guess that's how it will be from now until my life-time subscription expires.

See your doctor, and please keep writing. Your words are some of the best medicine many of us get.

jsp in waxahachie

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 4, 2007 - 5:45am.

Gordon,

Thanks for your honesty. I love blunt honesty. It's been a driving force in my own journey of healing from ... well, from life, damn it. I, too, have that damned black dog. I'm on meds for it and am not ashamed to say so. They help me stay balanced and focused. Without them in my life ... right now ... I'd probably spin out.

So does that make me weak? I don't think so. Let others judge whether I'm weak or not because I take meds for my clinical depression. Add to that a few months ago being diagnosed as asthmatic and, well, it's been a peachy 2007 so far (that's sarcasm, FYI).

I want you to know that you are not alone.

I do believe God loves me as I am and accepts me. I'm not going to HELL because I have clinical depression or other addictive/compulsive issues I am addressing. Therapy, transformational work, etc., are all part of my healing journey.

So blessings to you. Stay honest and true to your heart, friend.

Grace and peace,

Joe

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 4, 2007 - 1:43pm.

When you first started writing, wasn't it just to be able to share all those ideas, and all that creativity (art) that was bottled up in you? Wasn't it enjoyable, because it was an outlet for something that almost had to be said? And then, when you got a positive reaction, wasn't that just additional fuel for your fire?

When you read comments like many of those above, those who say, "Your writing means this to me", "your writing is gives me hope", "your writing supports my faith", "your writing helps me cope" or "your writing gives me insight into the lives of others" - does this not feel like added responsibility for a man who, admittedly, feels at the moment like he wants to sit in a corner, and avoid public interaction? What I mean is, your writing is cathartic, but it invites, quasi requires, public discussion and interaction, which is painful.

If that is the case, would a sabbatical be out of order?

Bill

Submitted by spwriter on August 4, 2007 - 2:48pm.

This is my first visit to your blog. I am here because of a friend's recommendation. A good friend. A best friend. I am thankful she sent me.

Like so many others have already said, I have been where you are. Not exactly the same place (each of our stories is, after all, unique). But same enough. For far too long I was living in the inability to feel a love I had worked so hard to build. It should have been simple, really, the solution to my numbness. My wife and my two children each were finding some balance through medication. Not me. I didn't see it. Not soon enough.

Unfortunately, I made a series of poor decisions in an effort to come to life, resultiing, ultimately with the loss of everything, chief among those things, my marriage of 25 years. That's when I went on medication - to find balance for the devastation I'd brought. But either it was too little too late, or my body just didn't like the chemical cocktail because soon after, I made the ultimate selfish choice - attempting to end my life.

This is where I'm supposed to put the lovely, hope-filled ending paragraph. But I don't have one. Not yet. I've found that in my story, to feel the deep pain of loss is far better than to live in numbness. I have since avoided medication and do indeed feel the waves of depression like sudden tsunamis. And even though I seek God's will daily, palpable hope usually escapes like a greased pig. I know it's there somewhere...but God's silence can be deafening.

Not sure why I felt compelled to write a comment. Maybe I just wanted to add my voice to the chorus of shared sorrows. There's something to that, I think. Something to knowing we're all screwed up in this ability to love, to feel, to live well.

Still, for what it's worth, I'll take a moment now to pray for your story. I can't promise I'll pray for you tomorrow...life will take me in other directions. The distractions of my own pain will call to me selfishly. But you can have these...these prayers. For now.

Thank you for your willingness to bleed on the page. I did that for a time, but am awaiting a transfusion before I can continue.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 4, 2007 - 2:53pm.

I often want to quit. Often, I think it would be in others' best interest for me to do so. "They could have a pastor with the energy that a non-depressed pastor would have," I reason. "One who could bear it to talk to people like a pastor must."
And I take my medication. And I realize those thoughts are off the track - though I almost wish they weren't.
And I have some moments of beauty, of love.
And then I want to quit.
I won't. I think.
Thank you for your story.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 5, 2007 - 4:53am.

I know the part about not being sure what to do with all the We'll help you/ we're here for you/ hey we're giving you big attention stuff. I personally also never know quite how to respond when someone wants to cheer me up, or suggests the umpteleventh vitamin/exercize/prayer/drug/therapist that might work. I want the help, and I do appreciate the gestures-- just not so much the suggesting and spotlighting. For me, all that caring attention is just difficult to hear when I don't feel all that caring about myself! But the thing I do get is that we care about you, and we are most certainly compelled to be sure that you know that. Weird or not, it is something that we say for you, because we are saying it for ourselves and for others we love too. And although your depression is yours, personal and all, I also see you as planting a seed, you know, for harvest. I guess by that I mean that I hear a bunch of people saying we acknowledge we're all in that same old human boat together, and all at least trying to pull for and with each other-- and boy is that a message that my heart sorely needs and loves to hear.

kait

Submitted by Annie B on August 5, 2007 - 11:09am.

I've been through depression three times in my life also. The pills help the symptoms - but for me the cure was to find a good counselor and talk until we uncovered the source of the pain. Writing it all out helps too - otherwise the thoughts just roll around and around in the brain.

My thoughts & prayers are with you. I know that one day the walls will fall away on either side and you will walk out into the sunshine again.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 5, 2007 - 2:01pm.

Hey Preacher Man,
sometimes you have to feed the falcon and at others you have to hood them to tame them and whet their appetite for the hunt. Could it be that your love needs the hood of depression to whet its appetite?

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 6, 2007 - 1:03pm.

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Submitted by Anonymous User on August 5, 2007 - 5:42pm.

I wonder if you can read all these comments or if the comments of a non-regular reader who has been depressed and comes from a long line of depressed people matters. But if it does, know that my prayers are with you. Medication sucks, but not as much as the darkness. May you find the right kind and right dosage and find yourself again.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 5, 2007 - 6:22pm.

Every so often I pass by your blog and every so often you write something that nails me right in my heart.

Depression is hell. My tears fall for you and yours.

becky

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 5, 2007 - 7:47pm.

I think many of these people have a point Gordon. While the cause of depression is IN PART chemical, there are also many layers of depression that go much deeper into your spirit and soul. I think you may be neglecting those aspects of it, medication will help, but this will also require a long hard look into your own heart and soul.
love

-a friend

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 6, 2007 - 12:57am.

But this is about love, right? And older love is different to younger love. We all change as we age - we sag, we get bigger noses, hair - we get hair sprouting from hilarious places. The person you love has changed too. And the thing is - it is all about Commitment and Trust. Not feelings. Relax in the love of the one who loves you. You cannot earn their love. Honour your committment and rely on her commitment to you.
Same with God I guess. You cannot earn grace, and our own merit sucks!
Peace and love, rlp

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 6, 2007 - 10:00am.

:(

I had to restart meds about 5 weeks ago. It's not the same medication as it was the first time, and this time I need to take sleeping pills to offset the insomnia caused by the anti-depressives. I waited for months to see if things would even out and they didn't. In fact, they just kept getting worse. Back to the doctor I went.

I know I'm the smallest reason I'm doing this; mostly it's so I can deal with other people, and so they can deal with me. Most especially it's for my husband.

I'm one of those health nuts who dislikes Western medicine, and its pills and potions and promises, and tries to fix stuff with herbs and meditation and other natural remedies. It felt like I was betraying myself to make an appointment with the doctor.

- ariel

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 9, 2007 - 11:14am.

For your honesty, brutal though it may be, I am truly thankful. It leaves space for the grace that holds us altogether. And has given my husband and me room to deal with his demons, which so often sound like yours. Blessings on your journey.

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 13, 2007 - 8:16am.

i understand. pride dies pretty quickly sometimes; knowing your weakness and protecting it is the bravest and strongest thing you'll ever have to do.

as someone above said, i hated medication but i hated misery more.xxx

Submitted by Anonymous User on August 24, 2007 - 11:33pm.

AHHH! I love your writing! and that story is beautiful and real and true. I shall pray for you.
-Raye

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 30, 2007 - 5:13pm.

And now, let's walk the high-wire without a net!

I've been on anti-depressants for the last six years or so. (Effexor, which works pretty well for me with minimal side-effects.) That, combined with a few years of therapy with a good psychologist and I'm surprised to be at the point where, with seeing a psychiatrist to review my medication, he says it's time to come off the drugs!

Believe it or not, this is a scary proposition for me. It was about two years ago I had an emotional crash, while on medication, for no apparent reason. I was having anxiety (panic) attacks that I couldn't control, couldn't stop shaking, couldn't stop crying. You really scare yourself when you're sitting in your bedroom closet measuring a piece of cord because you "just want to know" if it is long enough to hang yourself with.

So anyway, I've been one week so far with my dosage cut by a third. It was a bit of a rough week - finding my tolerance levels very low (and the kids especially boisterous!), and some anxiety - but feeling better now. At this level for another few weeks before seeing the doc for a review again, and will probably go down another third then.

The cause of my depression is something called Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder or PTSD for short. The trauma in question was a particularly nasty period of time in my childhood, which really changed the person I was ever going to be. (You can read the gory details in my old blog if you wish - http://dhubris.livejournal.com/ ).

I think dealing with depression or needing to see a shrink can be doubly hard for guys, especially in our western culture where real men are suppose to be tough and not need any of that crap. It really can challenge your self-identity. It wasn't until my lack of control over my behaviour got to the point where I was more scared of not seeing a doctor than seeing a doctor that I sought help. I wish I'd done it twenty years earlier.

Being a recent subscriber to your blog, I haven't read all your posts about your depression, so I was wondering, do you know if there is an underlying cause for it, apart from just "bad chemistry in your brain?"

I started on the pills thinking, "Yes! This is just a chemical problem that the medication can fix. That's all I need." After six months or so on medication I was at the point where I understood and could admit to myself that there were more serious underlying issues - I knew what they were, I just didn't want to admit it. I realised if I wanted to be the best father I could be for my kids, the best husband I could be, which the wench crazy enough to marry me deserved, I had to face the underlying issues.

After a couple of false starts, I found a straight-talking shrink who specialised in trauma and worked well for me.

Granted, living in a country where the health care system doesn't suck as much as it does in the US, it was something I could afford without too much pain to the hip-pocket nerve. At the end of the day though, I couldn't afford not to go - I'd be dead now if I didn't.

We'll see how the next week goes.

Peace and chocolate.

Dic. H.