The San Antonio Inklings

October 2, 2005 - 11:10pm

I have two friends with whom I meet once a month at Double Dave's, a pizza and beer place with numerous imported and otherwise hoity-toity beers on tap. Both of these guys go to church with me. John is an elder, and Tim is an ex-preacher who now attends Covenant and keeps me honest with puzzled expressions from the back row while I preach. He's also our local St. Francis expert and resident Baptist mystic. Tim began attending our church following an unfortunate incident at his own church. I wrote about him once but called him Tom instead of Tim because I was trying to be anonymous back then.

The three of us meet together in a manner similar to C.S. Lewis' Oxford friends, who called themselves "The Inklings." We drink beer as they did, but our conversations are nowhere near as sophisticated. Tim and I mostly entertain John with funny church stories like the time at Tim's church when he looked out the window and saw a boy from the youth group beating the son of a visiting family with a hockey stick.

I'm pretty sure that family never came back.

Double Dave's has occasional beer tasting events, during which the manager waxes eloquent on the history and style of a variety of beers no one has ever heard of except John. Tim and John take their beer very seriously. I sip a little but mostly have a go at the pizza. You'll be glad to know that I'm also the designated driver. The whole thing works out very nicely, to my way of thinking.

Last Friday John had a birthday party at Double Dave's. At one point I noticed John's wife taking a picture of us, so I grabbed an empty bottle of John's expensive European snobby beer and acted like I was drunk, though I was only drinking Diet Coke, as usual.

I don't know why. What would YOU have done?

Later, when John and Lexie discovered that they had a photo of their pastor looking drunk in a public place, they did exactly what you'd expect good friends and sensitive parishioners would do in a situation like that.

They posted it on the Internet of course.

Nice.

I already knew there was no other Baptist church in the country that would have me. Now I'm thinking that if I ever hope to serve another church, I'll have to go back to seminary and hope the "whiskey-palians" will take me.

rlp

Submitted by Pascale Soleil on October 2, 2005 - 11:40pm.

Hey!

Ish not like we're sho awful, ish it?

;)
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Submitted by jeffthefish on October 3, 2005 - 12:18am.

Hey!  La Fin du Monde!  Excellent choice!  You should try it for real some time.

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Submitted by Anonymous User on October 3, 2005 - 2:21am.

We "Whiskey-palians" would welcome you with open arms!

mibi52

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 3, 2005 - 9:04pm.

no kidding! Whiskey-palians are happy to have you, any time. ;)

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 4, 2005 - 9:14am.

I'm with mibi52. As a lifelong "Whiskey-palian" I know we'd be lucky to get you!

Chris in VA

Submitted by dhuff on October 15, 2005 - 7:36am.

"I'll have to go back to seminary and hope the "whiskey-palians" will take me."

Yes indeed, we Episcopalians would be honored to have you :) You're obviously one of us in spirit already...

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 17, 2005 - 11:22am.

As a Scottish WHISKY-palian, you will have to learn to spell it properly first!

Submitted by steelcowboy on October 3, 2005 - 4:57am.

Gee, what are friends for, if not to embarrass us? :)

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 3, 2005 - 5:52am.

My brother if your church is ever silly enough to kick you to the curb (but based on your descriptions they sound FAR too sensible to do such a silly thing)the "whiskey-palians (a gross misnomer since we're a sherry sipping, wine tasting denomination - lol!) would welcome you with open arms.

Your Inklings group sounds like a lot of fun.
Peace

Submitted by Third Grade Mind on October 3, 2005 - 5:58am.

Hmmm…I wonder what fun, compromising photos of
RLP I can come up with?  Being his brother, I'm sure I have several.  Where do I
begin?

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 3, 2005 - 7:19am.

Really if you are drinking beer you would fit in best with the Lutherans, we'd love to have you join us. Especially if you are willing to be designaed driver ;-)
Sozzled

Submitted by Stacy McKenna Seip on October 3, 2005 - 10:56am.

Javol, mein Herr!!! Lutherans - the original beer-swilling, spouse-kissing Protestants! ::giggle::
 

Submitted by Gene on October 4, 2005 - 1:00am.

"It is better to think of church in the ale-house than to think of the ale-house in church."
-Martin Luther

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 3, 2005 - 7:30am.

I would hope that one of my parishioners would do the same! Too funny!

Submitted by reverendmother on October 3, 2005 - 7:44am.

Let me also extend a warm invitation, should it ever be needed, for you to join the pres-beer-terians.

Oh, and I could really go for a couple of DD's pizza rolls right about now...

Submitted by MusicianofHope on October 3, 2005 - 11:27pm.

Yes. Here's a pre-pres-beer-terian who would happily welcome you into the chosen-frozen. That picture of you 'drunk' is quite funny. Thank you for making me laugh in the midst of my stress.

Submitted by Jim Sturges on October 3, 2005 - 8:29am.

Preach, you probably know that wherever there are four Episcopalians gathered together, there's always a fifth.

Although I can't imagine what they'd have to put in the San Antonio water to make your entire congregation go crazy, if they ever do, you're welcome in our place.

jim

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 3, 2005 - 8:30am.

ooh! Kriek Lambic! My favorite! :D

Submitted by Erin on October 4, 2005 - 9:24am.

Yowza!  How did I not notice? - that's some of the only alcohol I like!  Yummm....Also, I wanted to say, RLP, that I saw someone in a Thai restaurant in Madison, WI last night who looked kinda like you.  He even had a little bit of a drawl. :)

Submitted by ndr76 on October 4, 2005 - 10:58am.

Yum, yum! Yes Belgian Lambic! Only make mine Framboise, please! It's the only "beer" that I've ever been partial to. Otherwise, in true Catholic style, it's wine for me! Fun post, Preach. Thanks for the laugh!

Nat
http://wheretonowgod.blogspot.com

Submitted by rlp on October 4, 2005 - 11:01am.

Yeah, I like the Lambic A LOT. All the flavors. I have four bottle in my fridge. John and Tim think it's "womanly" beer, but who cares what they say.

Submitted by rbarenblat on October 5, 2005 - 5:39pm.

Lambic is tasty stuff. Yep.

You might also enjoy Melbourne Apricot -- I think that's what it's called; it's an apricot ale from Britain, and it is as profoundly apricot as anything I have ever tasted. It's fantastic, though like a Belgian Lambic, I think of it as a sipping dessert beer, not a drink-with-dinner kind of thing. :-)

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Submitted by Jared Cramer on October 3, 2005 - 9:29am.

Yeah, you really gotta watch out for those parishioners, they'll get ya.

Submitted by mu on October 3, 2005 - 9:34am.

Man, our DoubleDave's doesn't do beer tastings...maybe I should write the manager. The fanciest beer ours carries is Newcastle.

Submitted by paigeb on October 3, 2005 - 9:35am.

Actually, the true Anglican drink, at least according to my British brethren, is Gin. Add yet another Whiskey-palian who would welcome you into the fold!
 

Submitted by see through faith on October 5, 2005 - 1:15pm.

actually gin is just the Brits' drick. tea is a poor substitute!!

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 3, 2005 - 12:07pm.

The funniest story of the day. :)

Submitted by timsamoff on October 3, 2005 - 12:08pm.

That was by me, by the way.

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Submitted by mattman on October 3, 2005 - 12:19pm.

wow, I hadn't read about Tim/Tom, I REALLY like that superball essay. And you're killin' me with the Double Daves reference. That was our sometime hangout for Monday Night Football in seminary, $5 pitchers and peperoni rolls to take your mind off the reading that wasn't going to get done that night. Oh, how I miss it.

Submitted by Jonah on October 3, 2005 - 12:47pm.

I've long suspected there was an Episcopalian inside you longing to break out. Why not now?

Jonah
http://jacsongs.blogspot.com

Submitted by see through faith on October 3, 2005 - 1:31pm.

brilliant. loved this.

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 3, 2005 - 1:51pm.

As long as you're not looking to move closer to Plano, you'd likely be welcome by Episcopalians. A quick looksee on the web yielded several likely parishes there in SA. You'd probably only need another year of div school. :)

As an Episcopalian, one title jumped out at me in the image at the bottom of the peice about Tim/Tom. See, you already have the manual.

Submitted by rlp on October 3, 2005 - 2:26pm.

Yeah, I love the language in the Book of Common Prayer. Use it all the time in our worship. I have that romantic love of liturgy that you often find in people brought up in low church settings.

Submitted by jeremy on October 3, 2005 - 3:36pm.

This is a good sign; we like the same beer. In my top 5 for sure.

http://www.unibroue.com/products/3pistoles.cfm

Cheers.

Submitted by luthsem on October 3, 2005 - 4:06pm.

Luther would be proud

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 4, 2005 - 7:11am.

rlp, you said:
"I have that romantic love of liturgy that you often find in people brought up in low church settings."

Want to expound on that a little? I definitely come from that same mold, and have often mused on the "why".

Submitted by rlp on October 4, 2005 - 8:51am.

I actually stole that idea from someone else, but I don't remember who it was. This person saw that my shelves were FILLED with liturgical resources, though I am a Baptist. Traditionally, Baptists don't use liturgical writings, though that is very open to debate and hard to define. Baptists, like many evangelicals, center their worship around the reading of scripture and its public interpretation (preaching). She or he said, "You have the love of liturgy that is usually found in those who grew up without it."
 
In the last quarter century, ecumenism has become a driving force in American Christianity - thank God. We in the family of Christ are beginning to realize that we all have things to share with each other. Baptists are observing Lent and Advent, and Roman Catholics are holding Bible studies in homes.
 
Many of us who did not grow up in a liturgical tradition are IN LOVE with the beauty of the language. Perhaps our passion bears the sign of newness, you know? Like new rich people who have no class. ;-) We plaster liturgy all over the place.

Submitted by enz on October 4, 2005 - 9:49am.

me too, me too! I remember an interesting conversation I had with a Lutheran-turned-praisechoruser. She was tired of "all the trappings" of liturgy while I was savoring the richness of its symbolism. I wonder if we all just need to try a new flavor at some point, to refresh our palates.
 

Submitted by see through faith on October 5, 2005 - 1:19pm.

it's actually so encouraging. I went to a Bible study downunder recently - two RCs turned up (bibleless) and some anglicans (high and low church) and a former baptist - and it was great. The study was on Esther.

In the methodist church ofcourse we have all sorts ... erm and IMHO the no drinking alchohol varies a lot from conference to conference or local church to local church. communion wine is always grapejuice though (except in one church in Estonia - don't ask!)

be blessed :)

Submitted by phlipside on October 4, 2005 - 8:31am.

Fascinating how a mention of alcohol brings the Episcopalians out of the wood work!  Gin, beer, sherry, wine..never forget we're the big tent people! 
Peace
Jay

Submitted by sanityman on October 4, 2005 - 10:41am.

"Truly I say to you, whenever two or three Anglicans are gathered together for whatever purpose, there will be a trip to the pub in the offing."

...Well, not quite :o) However, it can't be a co-incidence that in England any village graced with a church will have a pub in close proximity?

love,
Chris.

Submitted by ndr76 on October 4, 2005 - 11:03am.

I remember when I went to the Netherlands in high school, and as soon as church was out, the gathering space turned into a *bar!* I was young and quite protestant in that time, and I remember all the "old ladies" in our tour group being quite taken aback. This was a Dutch-Reformed church of course. The more I watched the people stick around and talk and bond over a pint of beer, the more convinced I became that this might just be a cool idea. *sigh* I just love Europeans.

Nat
http://wheretonowgod.blogspot.com

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 5, 2005 - 6:07pm.

Well, where else is the choir supposed to go to soothe their poor vocal cords?

(former chorister)

Submitted by Little Green Friend on October 4, 2005 - 4:05pm.

As a fellow Baptist, I must say that I was shocked and a little disillusioned. I mean, everything that I once thought to be real and true was tossed out the window with that one picture. Now I have to revise my whole "the only way to keep a Baptist from drinking all your beer is to invite 2" theory. Great!!! ;-)

Submitted by spidey on October 5, 2005 - 10:02am.

Darn it, LGF, there you go blabbing the Baptist secrets to all the world again. We're s'posed to be the teetotalers, remember? Man!  ;)

Submitted by Jake on October 4, 2005 - 8:22pm.

hey chris,
I don't know about 2 or 3, but usually when there's at least 4 Episcopalians gathered together, you can count on a 5th being around somewhere!
rlp, anytime you feel the urge to cross over to Canterbury, we'd love to have you!  Although, I suspect you are right where you're supposed to be. 

Submitted by Hook on October 4, 2005 - 8:37pm.

Preacher,

As a former Baptist (American) pastor turned whiskey-palian, I too would welcome you. You can even join us for deep beer(s) and shallow theology at our favorite hangout, The Union Grill, which some of us locals call the "Down and Under" because it is in the basement of the local radio station. It is not famous for a great selection of beer but for being owned by the local numbers runner.

We are usually greater in number, but probably slighter in wisdom than your group.

Peace
Hook

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 5, 2005 - 9:45am.

What would I do? In the same situation, probably the same exact thing.

Winthrop J. Quiggy

Submitted by Evangelina on October 5, 2005 - 1:42pm.

ah... just like the ol' "boss night on the town" days.  But that was
before we realized the pastor, his wife, an elder and a deacon wouldn't
be kicked out of the church for downing a beer or a margarita.

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 6, 2005 - 10:46am.

Again a typical American thing, beer being taboo for good bible believing folks from the Deep South. Does the NIV also have Jesus turn wine into water in order to save some souls?
Greetings from the "rose oil guy", who has been reading all of your blogs and (being a Baptist pastor) likes it very much!
Cheers,
Ralf

Submitted by rlp on October 6, 2005 - 4:00pm.

Ralf!!!!!!
 
What a delight to hear from you. And even more exciting to see that you read the Foy story with your vial of oil in it. Just so you will know, I take it with me when I visit the sick. Ran out of oil and have bought more.
 
thanks,

Submitted by goatmeal on October 9, 2005 - 11:35am.

Well if it makes you feel any better, I can tell you're faking it in the picture.  You have too firm a grip on the bottle to be as drunk as you look.
I grew up in a church that didn't even celebrate Christmas (thought it was wrong to do so) and when I discovered the liturgy I fell in love with it too.  I did try the Anglican thing for awhile but never once got offered a single drop of whiskey.  It was only ever merlot or scotch.