Dreams

Posted: November 10, 2005 - 10:38am

This is a place where you can discuss dreams, their meanings, various ways of interpreting dreams, or anything "dreamy" that you like.
 
Enjoy!

Submitted by brotherterry on November 10, 2005 - 10:55am.

I have a recurring tornado dream.
In the dream there is a tornado coming toward me and I am unable to get out of the way.  The setting is always different but the "danger" is always the same.
My family was hit by a tornado when I was a kid and for may years I thought it was a type of PTSD.  After I started my own family, the tornado was threatening not only to me, but to them as well.  I would wake up horrified.
Only recently have I come to understand what I think is the true meaning of this dream: I am the tornado.  The tornado represents me living a life totally surrendered to God and that scares the hell out of me!  The tornado is wild and irresistable just like a life lived totally in faith.
I still have the tornado dream sometimes, but it doesn't scare me anymore!  Isn't that crazy?  I have made peace with the tornado because it is me!
To quote Paul Atreides from Dune:  "I am the whirlwind!"
peace,

Submitted by rlp on November 10, 2005 - 11:09am.

Having read a little bit about Jung's basic approach to dreams, the important thing is what the tornado symbol means to you. Only you can say. Very interesting.

Submitted by Anonymous User on December 23, 2005 - 8:31pm.

Tornado dreams are a very good indication that you are a proud, card carrying member of the worry wart club! Tornado dreams and people who worry too much go hand in hand! The tornado symbolizes the torment your mind is going through. Tornadoes are "an act of God" and are uncontrollable so you may get this dream when you are unable to control or get a handle on something in waking life and therefore worry to death about it. When there's too much going on, and things seem to be "in a whirlwind" you will get this dream.

Basically, the message of these dreams is: sometimes you just gotta let go, "ride out the storm" and let things play themselves out. The worry you put yourself through, the needless stress, like the tornado, is a destructive force.

The next time you get a tornado dream, just think of Dorothy. On the other end of her tornado was a magical place called Oz. And if you can just relax and ride it out, there'll be wonderful place for you too, a place called "everything will be just fine." :)

Submitted by Anonymous User on May 15, 2006 - 3:11pm.

I have several dreams of different tornadoes. I thought that they meant that some type of storm is coming.

Submitted by shadow on November 10, 2005 - 12:27pm.

I also have a recurring dream, though sometimes I think of it as a nightmare.  It's of when I was a child, I am floating and looking down on myself in bed.  I can see what's going to happen to this child and start yelling and screaming at her to get out, but there's nowhere to go.  Watching is too much for me, I am now floating in the woods; they are so beautiful,so green and incredibly peaceful.  I never want to come down, but I have to.  But herein lays the problem, I can't seem to get down, I am fighting so hard, but it's not working.  I am so scared, someone is going to find out and I'm going to be in trouble.  Finally something happens and I just drop back down to my bed.  Back to reality...
I have just recently come to realize that this is the way I coped, this is how I lived thru this stuff.  Sometimes I see it as a nightmare, but then sometimes it's good because I lived through it.  This is how I was able to grow.  The way I view it, God was helping me, He was showing me that there are good things in life. 

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 10, 2005 - 12:52pm.

My recurring dream involves a pet bird I had as a child. Whenever I'm not taking very good care of myself, he shows up. Often he hasn't been fed for way too long, or doesn't have any water left. Once his eyes were plucked out. A couple of times there have been multiples of him, all in his cage. And in one glorious dream, he was actually healthy and happy and beautiful, and no longer caged. I take him as a symbol of my soul that shows up when I need insight into what's going on in there.

Submitted by amvhoward on November 10, 2005 - 1:25pm.

A recent, but vivid dream that I'm still wrestling with:

I was with my husband, and we were going to a high Latin mass at the cathedral in the city I was born in. I was very excited to have him coming with me, because he doesn't like going to Mass, and I don't like going alone. On the way in, we had to pass by a sort of gift shop, set up right in the central aisle of the cathedral-- this was normal, in the dream-logic. I looked at the items on the table, and picked up a small white rectangular box, the sort that usually holds a baptisimal candle; I think this one held incense. It had red lettering on it, and the box said something about burning the blight of the Godless nation of Israel off the face of the earth. I turned to the old woman manning the cash register, and asked how they could sell something so hateful, and she told me that I'd have to speak to the Bishop, and they just sell whatever the company sends them to sell. I got very upset, and ended up blurting out "But I can't come inside now! I'm a Jew!" and ran outside. My husband followed me and said "That's why I never go to Mass. What did you expect?"

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 10, 2005 - 1:27pm.

I dream about being chased through buildings I'm unfamiliar with; often I have an unfamiliar child with me that I must protect as I make my way through these buildings. Frequently, they're old houses, with dank, nasty cellars. I'm not sure who I'm being chased by, but the chasers are malevolent, and I'm frightened of them. I always wake before I find out where I am, who the child is, who's chasing me or what the purpose of my journey is.

Submitted by Jonas on November 10, 2005 - 3:57pm.

When I was younger, I always used to have dreams of fighting with people. Or trying to hurt them. It always troubled me, especially since I was rarely able to, even when defending myself. I somehow froze, or was stuck in time, and I couldn't.

 Last night, I had a dream that would disturb most people. I was in a weird place with many horrible people. So I killed them. For once, I was able to do it without much of a problem. Many people would consider this dream to be bad, but as I study dreams, I have learned that killing in dreams means that the "victims" are actually old habits or parts of ourselves which have been harmful to us. By killing them in our dreams, we are letting them go and moving on.  While such a thing might disturb some people, and in the past may have even disturbed me, I feel a sense of freedom from it. I need a change in my life and I'm working hard at achieving it. Knowing that I am slowly conquering my old demons is great news to me, even on a subconscious level. It's interesting how dreams work..
 Note: Sorry that this is all one paragraph, but for some reason, my posts always end up like this, even when they're properly organized before hand. 

Submitted by rlp on November 10, 2005 - 4:01pm.

Jung says that every person, place, and thing in your dream has some special significance for you. If you dream about your daughter, she represents some part of yourself.
 
In the case of the dream I wrote about, my father has a pair of binoculars just like the ones in the dream, and I recently borrowed them. This is a clue to what my subconscious self seems to be wrestling with. Just a clue, but fun to think about it.

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 10, 2005 - 4:27pm.

I had a dream a few weeks ago.

I am a Christian --Roman Catholic to be precise-- and while I admire other people who seem to know all there is about heaven and earth, I find the more I learn the less I really know. I've been content just to trust that it is in the hands of God and be content in that. Therefore, I haven't really speculated upon exactly what happens after death. I'll go as far as to say I believe everything will be made clear to me then and whatever I learn at that point, I bet I'll also say, "Gosh, I should have figured that out myself! Duh!"

I've never tried to nail my beliefs down as to what actually happens in heaven: what it's like, who is exactly there, what we'll exactly do. I really don't think man is really supposed to know, to be honest.

Well, anyway to get to the dream part of this. I've beena dog lover all my life. I had my first dog when I was three and have had at least one or two ever since. (I am 49 years old). I loved my dogs and they gave me great comfort and joy. For some reason, I never counted upon them being in heaven, though.

One night, however, I dreamed I died and I did go to heaven and there to meet me were all my old dogs. I was so happy as I sat there and was able to hug and pet and kiss all my old friends. I felt so happy!

So that was my dream.

I told a relative of mine who is very religious and knows more than I do and she said, "Why, Jeannie, you're going to Dog Heaven!"

And you know, that wouldn't be so bad.

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 10, 2005 - 10:02pm.

What do you think about inducing states of dreaming?
-djeikyb serten

Submitted by rlp on November 10, 2005 - 11:56pm.

I don't know what you mean by inducing states of dreaming. Will you elaborate?

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 11, 2005 - 12:58pm.

Like through meditation, binaural beats, sleep deprivation, or even natural or synthetic drugs (legal and otherwise)?

Submitted by FluffyN on November 11, 2005 - 7:33am.

My husband just told me about a dream he had the other night:
In the dream he had taken the family vacationing in Iraq. Everywhere we went we met Iraqis who were trying to make him pay a water bill. They would hand him a piece of paper with "water" and a number written on it and they would say "you must pay for this water". He was very annoyed by this and went back to the hotel to try to hide from the water salesmen. He could tell when one was approaching because they made a dripping noise as they walked even though they were not wet. Later on, at the hotel, he inadvertantly walked into a room where the water men were sitting around a table. They looked at him and he could finally see him in their "true state" -- they were all reindeer. End of dream.
He has no idea what it could possibly mean, but it was very funny. I wonder if the water part has anything to do with Iraq being a Muslim country and our little girl says "allah" when she means "water". And maybe the reindeer could be explained by the recent appearance of Christmas merchandise in stores. I don't think I want to delve any deeper into it than that! :-)

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 21, 2005 - 8:49am.

reindeer = Rain Dear

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 11, 2005 - 8:30am.

"Dreaming is one of the ways that we learn what it means to be human." That's beautiful.

Submitted by see through faith on November 11, 2005 - 8:32am.

sorry - forgot to log in (again!)

Submitted by OldPoet on November 11, 2005 - 12:20pm.

OldPoet
Every time I go through a traumatic or important time, my dreams are geared to tell me something.  I almost always have a vivid "wrap up" kind of a dream when I am ready to put an event in the past.  I know what all my dreams mean to me.  Sometimes there are parts that are unclear, but they come to me later.  The worst part of dreaming is when I don't for a long time.  Due to some health problems, I did not sleep well or dream during a time.  It was hell.
Here is what I personally believe about dreams...In the sleep, I connect, not only with God, but with all of the people who are connected.  Not too radical.  But, I believe everyone is connected to God, even those who would choose not to believe or follow a God.  That means I am connected to some folks I would rather not be.  I believe we must sleep to reconnect.  No one really knows why we sleep, but we seem to need it.  I also think of prayer/meditation as levels of trying to get to that sleep place while we are alert. 
I also feel I see other peoples dreams sometimes.  They are distinctly different.  I don't know what they mean and I am not in them. 
I hope to see you in my dreams.

Submitted by Joy on November 11, 2005 - 1:37pm.

I have a lot of dreams in with very detailed and "scientific" answers to questions that I pose (explaining traveling in another dimension, or the wiring system for radio-lizards, or why Nalgene bottles are so popular.) I think this is because I like to validate and explain away (contain) all the questions that I have.

Another similarity in my dreams is that all of the buildings have many chambers, something I hadn't noticed on my own but was mentioned by a therapist. She said that the lines in my head are very rigid and I make sharp distinctions between right and wrong or value judgements. I also tend to separate head and heart, and honor both equally.

Most of my dreams, though, are completely composed of random bits of my life, from grocery shopping (with a hamster in a ball as the wobbly wheel on the cart) to going to work and not being able to find any of the conference rooms. Occasionally I can fly by maintaining a certain level of anxiety--it makes me levitate.

Submitted by Keith on November 11, 2005 - 2:19pm.

The only tangible benefit of starting Interferon injections for MS was that the side effects woke me up at times of the night when I wouldn't usually wake up. That's the only thing that ever convinces me I dream at all--being awakened in the middle of one and remembering bits of it.

I remember one dream, in particular, from the period before I learned how to control the side effects. A human-sized maze, not unlike those big topiary mazes, but made of cinder block. Where you might expect an opening that would lead from crooked segment to crooked segment, there'd just be another piece cinder block wall in the way, so that the maze was really a bunch of zig-zaggy closed-off sections.

Lots of people were making their way through this maze by vaulting over the walls at high speed, just as though leaping over hurdles in a track event. The walls were maybe 8 feet high; you couldn't tell what was over them until you leaped. No one was racing with anyone else, but everyone seemed to be going as fast as possible.

I was just one of these people, but I only encountered people coming the other way. No one passed me going my direction, and I passed no one.

Vaulting that last cinder block wall was the one that woke me up, because I found myself hundreds of feet in the air, over a broad ocean. There may have been an island off in the distance. That was the end of the maze--or maybe I broke out of it entirely and went somewhere else.

I haven't remembered another dream since I figured out what Tylenol dosage would let me sleep.

Submitted by enz on November 11, 2005 - 3:22pm.

I was walking along a sidewalk with my dad one day, and happened to tell him about my recurring dreams of picking up coins from the ground, off a sidewalk, etc. He told me that he has similar dreams, and has had them all his life. We had never discussed this until I was in my mid-20s, but it has caused me to think a lot about those nature/nurture questions. Did I inherit from him a brain structure that predisposes me to this dream? Did his recurrent dream cause him to raise me in a way that made "finding coins" a theme for me?I'm content to leave it a mystery, but I wonder if anyone else has a similar story.
 

Submitted by reverend mommy on November 11, 2005 - 6:08pm.

Grrl,
My mother and I dreamed the same dream -- the first dream I can remember. It's more of a memory of smooth/light/sweet/good and the memory of bitter/cold/wrinkled/evil. That's it. And how I grieve the loss of the "smooth" and dread the "wrinkled/dark." Simple dream that I still dream on occasion. I long for that smooth/good/light/sweet and bask in it when I dream of it. Not so odd that I associate it with "God" and the other with "Evil", huh?

I wonder what it is that you are gleaning/picking up when you pick up the coins? Have you ever thought about it?
***************
http://reverendmommy.blogspot.com
If God intended us to be vegatarian, why did He make His critters so dern tasty?

Submitted by enz on November 12, 2005 - 12:14am.

Yes, I often wake from that dream wondering what it means this time, but I have never found a pattern. My dad and I talked about it, too, and he's never connected it with any meaning either.  It kind of gave us both chills to realize that something we each had thought very individual and quirky was actually experienced by the other.
The dream varies in its setting, but I always spot or find one coin and then see another (and another and another) as I pick them up. Once or twice it's been a vending machine change slot, but usually it's coins on the ground. Sometimes antique, sometimes current. And often I think, during the dream, that  _this time_  it's not a dream.
The ironic thing is that it's my mom who always spots the penny in the parking lot in real life. Hmmm.

Submitted by see through faith on November 13, 2005 - 7:04am.

this is very interesting.

As we were falling asleep both me and my dad would suddenly jerk awake, as if we were afraid to dream at all

one recurring dream I have had has been about not being able to remember the crucial line (passwork, answer, sequence of events) at the last minute. I've had to learn to give myself permssion to fail and that's not easy.

also a kind of indellible blue often figures in my dreams.

Submitted by reverend mommy on November 11, 2005 - 6:05pm.

Brother Terry,
I dream of tornados as well. The "being chased by a tornado" dream and the dream where a house (my house -- myself) is obliterated by a tornado and when the tornado leaves a new foundation has been laid.

I think (at least for me) that the tornado is the finger of God himself. God chased me for a long long time. When he caught up with me, he wiped away the old life I had built and laid the foundation of my new life himself.

I haven't dreamed the dream of a tornado in a while -- once I accepted that God was chasing me, the dream ended. If I dream it again, I plan to let the tornado catch me -- as see where it will take me.

I also dream of fire in the same manner -- it's always fire that burns and purifies but never consumes.

I personally believe that it's how God speaks to some of us.

http://reverendmommy.blogspot.com
If God intended us to be vegatarian, why did He make His critters so dern tasty?

Submitted by see through faith on November 13, 2005 - 7:05am.

being caught by God, burnt up and yet not consumed - these are great dreams :)

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 13, 2005 - 5:26pm.

A reoccuring dream that seemed to have religious undertones involved a snake. Two such dreams stand out in mind: The first dream happened while I was pregnant with my first child which at the time I didn't know was my son. In that dream I am running away from the snake. Years later when I became a born again christian and read the book of Revelations I felt a connection to the pregnant woman running from the snake (satan). After I became I christian, I had another dream where I need to go down a flight of stairs which were blocked by a mess of snakes who were preventing me from using the stairs. In the dream I say out loud "Oh yes I can, in the name of Jesus, I can!" and descend the stairway with no problem.

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 14, 2005 - 7:12am.

I dream almost every night. I have an entire parallel universe that happens just in my dreams, and I'm the only constant in it. Last night, I was involved in a rescue of a young boy who was kidnapped and taken into a tropical jungle. For some reason (perhaps because I like him), Tom Selleck was there.

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 14, 2005 - 8:39am.

I dreamed my friend's biggest client died, and he was inconsolable. I tried to talk with him , be there, anything to cheer him up, all to no avail. He gave me his cell phone to share cameraphone pictures of the client's last days, and then he disappeared and I couldn't find him. And I couldn't call him because I had his phone. I felt so helpless and sad.

Submitted by scout on November 14, 2005 - 10:15am.

When I was an undergrad at Michigan State, I took a course on dreams and dreaming with W.S. Penn, an author who wrote several novels about dreaming in a Native American context.  During the course of that class, we were forbidden to share our dreams nor would he tell us about his (save the dreams he wrote about in his biography).  The reason is that he believed dreams to be communications with a higher level of human consciousness - primarily with our ancestors.  Discussion of our dreams openly is, therefore, embarrassing because it involves the sharing of things so personal that we often don't even understand them ourselves.  I don't know if he is right or wrong, but that notion has stuck with me.  I dream all the time, but I never share my dreams with anyone until I have completely  understood them.  I have a recurring dream that I still do not understand.  I'll keep that one close to the chest.  I don't want someone who is more astute than I am to know something about me that I don't even know myself. 
It seems that you share the notion that dreams are communications with a higher consciousness.  Don't you think there is a slightly voyeuristic component to reading the content of other people's dreams - especially in this format? 

Submitted by rlp on November 14, 2005 - 11:04pm.

Voyeuristic? I don't think so. I guess everyone has to set their own boundaries. I don't share all my dreams. I've shared exactly two here in 3 years. It almost sounds as if your professor has a superstitious belief about dreams. I mean, what is there to be embarrased about?
 
Now, if I recorded all of my dreams here and turned this into some sort of dream forum, yeah that might be a little weird.

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 19, 2005 - 4:05pm.

I think you are right. When I was a graduate student in clinical psychology, I volunteered to share one of my dreams for analysis in a class (made up mostly of people who had been classmates of mine for several years already). As they picked the dream apart, and some of their interpretations made sense, I was embarrassed at how personal it really was and horrified that I had put such a big piece of my unconscious "out there". Imagine how embarrassed I was a few days later when a cheerfully oblivious classmate came up to me in the mailroom and said, "Hey, I saw a [object] like that one in your dream!" I can't imagine ever again sharing a dream with anyone other than my husband, a very close friend, or a therapist.

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 14, 2005 - 10:36am.

Bridge dreams are what I experience before I have a real challenge I'm facing- something that terrifies me, that I've never done before.
All different kinds of bridges, depending on the situation.
Some of them are very beautiful, and almost all of them are incredibly steep: I usually have to cross them alone: it's an incredible relief to cross over.

I had one, just as we were considering starting a family, that I travelled with Ivan- we were traveling on a bridge that had a turnoff in the middle, that led to a little island with a museum. They were having an exhibit of "The Family through History". There were neolithic cave families, and Egyptian families, African families with apprentices who were acknowledged as brothers, cousins who were given the same nomenclature as siblings, foster families, guardians, wards etc. All the definitions, as broadly portrayed as possible.
I went to the gift shop- to get Guatemalen worry dolls for one of the little girls we were helping to raise, and I saw this incredible piece of Jewelry- three pins, consisting of three abstract shapes, in diamonds- but they could be joined to form a bird.

I had this great moment of clarity, then, that God's family was not conventional, but that it IS, and the first inkling that my family might not be conventional either. It was sad and miraculous and scary and really beautiful.And, as it turns out, 10 years later, true.

Love, Marya

Submitted by revscott on November 15, 2005 - 12:54pm.

I don't know much about interpretation, at least in a scholarly sense. What I believe about dreams is another matter entirely.

My grandfather died in 1996 after a long, loving life farming in Nebraska. My dad farmed with him for many of those years and I was blessed to grow up less than a mile from my grandparents' house. After Grandpa died, I was grieving pretty heavily, until I had a dream one night that changed my life and my faith.

Grandpa sat on the side of my bed and we talked for hours, it seemed. He was young - younger than he had been even when I had known him as a toddler. He was smiling and loving and everything I remembered. And when our conversation was wrapping up, he looked at me, smiled, and said "I'm okay - and I'll always be here with you."

This April my mentor, Pastor Larry, died after a two year battle with cancer. I'd known Larry from my sophomore year at the University of Nebraska. Much of what I know about being a pastor I learned from watching him. The week Larry died, I didn't know what to do with myself - one of the wisest and most loving people I'd ever known was gone, and I didn't know how I was going to learn to be a pastor without his guidance.

As RLP will probably agree, this pastoring bit is one of those things you can't learn to do at seminary - and having a mentor is invaluable for those first few years (decades?) of mistakes and miracles. I was having trouble sleeping and focusing during the first few weeks after Larry's funeral. Then the dream came.

Again, Larry came to me at night. He was the healthy, vibrant, joyous guy I'd known for years. We talked at length about ministry, family, his life, mine to come. And as we wrapped up our time together, Larry looked at me and said, "I'm okay - and I'll always be with you."

I sleep better these nights believing that for reasons unknown to me, God uses my dreams to communicate with me. The saints of my life come when I need them and support and sustain me. Sometimes the saints come to kick me in the ass, too - I've had other, less pleasant kinds of dreams. But this is what I believe: my dreams are a window of sorts into the world yet to be, and those who've gone ahead of me come to the window sometimes to remind me what's in store. I'm grateful and incredibly blessed.

Submitted by reverend mommy on November 15, 2005 - 2:06pm.

Me too, Scott.
I believe God uses our dreams especially to communicate with us. Because we are vulnerable? Because we are more open? I don't know. I feel they are a blessing, as well. And although I understand what Scout is saying, it's up to the individual. Dreams always say something about the person who dream them. And it can be intimate. It's personal discretion if the individual wishes to share. Sometimes they need someone to share the load. And I have discovered that a couple of clergywomen and I share a dream -- even the description of the individual in the dream. There is something beyond us that connects us in ways we cannot imagine.

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 17, 2005 - 3:59pm.

That was an interesting dream - I find that dreams that tell stories are almost always in some way profound - telling something we want to know or need to know, but may not have a way to do it in the waking world. Both parts of the dream seem to be about increasing in understanding and knowledge - and appreciation.

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 18, 2005 - 10:12pm.

I love ya padre. I cannot for the life of me remeber a single dream as of late however. Too busy with work and kids I guess. I miss my dreams. *sigh* haha

Submitted by Anonymous User on December 14, 2005 - 8:33am.

i have a terrible dream where i was stabbing people and cutting my hand off, i awoke and my hand was in the postion of holding the knife!!! ive now got a fear that i might do some harm is this right to have this after such a bad dream, what does it all mean?

Submitted by Anonymous User on February 13, 2006 - 5:34pm.

My husband woke me up from a bad dream today.He said that I was speaking in some strange language which he could not understand; he said it sounded Latin. The only words he could understand was "Jesus Christ." He said that my voice was deep and sounded evil. I remember my dream. I was in a room of photographs when a photo of an old woman flew off the shelf and began moving on the floor to get my attention. I picked up the photo and began making the sign of the cross over the image. I could feel my hand shaking as if a force was trying to make my hand stop. The image then turned into a photo of a man with bushy black hair,very tan skin, wearing a brown robe. Ever heard of this?

Submitted by Anonymous User on April 6, 2006 - 3:43am.

"Dreaming has a meaning, like everything else we do" Carl Jung.

Had a dream last night that involved characters from the O.C violently fighting each other, ryan was beaten and covered in blood and had to be picked up by marissa and a few others in a car. There was no room for me in the car and they left.
It started raining heavily, I was under a bridge somewhere, and on the horizon I could see black clouds and what looked like huge tornados forming. I got my camera out and started taking pictures.
The tornados moved towards me quickly, and I started running.
Suddenly I was back in my family home, and I was telling my parents that a tornado was coming. I went upstairs to find marissa and ryan in my bed huddled together. Again, there was no room for me in this bed. I looked out of my bedroom window and saw the tornados coming, they had slowed down and were sort of hovering outside my house.
The house then started spinning and I lay on the floor. I remember feeling quite calm.

Any idea what this means? I am quite confused!!!
Thanks

Submitted by Anonymous User on April 9, 2006 - 6:00pm.

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