Open Source Radio Tonight

December 19, 2005 - 11:54am

I should have mentioned this a few days ago, but tonight I'm going to be a guest on Christopher Lydon's Open Source radio show. I got an email about this a few days ago but somehow let the date slip up on me. It is Monday, right?

The subject we are discussing is how Christianity works with and within our democratic system of government. Christopher Lydon has gone to great pains to emphasize that this is not a show about the separation of church and state (something that I value GREATLY). Instead, the question is, how should Christians live out their Christianity within our culture and government? If you are a Christian and a politician, say, how does your faith contribute to your work? Where are the boundaries?

It's an interesting subject, and I'm looking forward to the conversation. Other guests are Bill McKibben and Ted Haggard. Information about them is available at the open source website.

There is a live stream of the conversation at 7pm EST. Links to that stream are also at Open Source.

This kind of stuff is still VERY weird to me. I can't quite wrap my mind around it. It helps if I remember that it's Real Live Preacher they want to talk to. I guess I can understand that. So okay, I don't mind letting him out to talk on the phone now and again. ;-)

gordon

Submitted by Anonymous User on December 19, 2005 - 5:11pm.

Would you say that Gordon and Real Live Preacher differ in opinion on very many subjects? Or is it more a matter of the expression and articulation of your ideas? Is Real Live Preacher too heroic a figure to you, not the kind of person who could really exist in the real world? You couldn't, say, be real live preacher at the office, or at a party, you have to relate to other people as Gordon Atkinson?

Submitted by rlp on December 19, 2005 - 10:41pm.

If I knew the answer to this I would say so. When a person writes, particularly in one forum, a character develops. I've always had a sense that real live preacher is not the same as gordon atkinson. I tend to talk about "him" in the third person. I don't know why I do this, but it feels right.

I think of myself as an ordinary guy. I AM an ordinary guy. It feels strange for an ordinary guy to be on a radio show. For some reason it seems like that would happen to rlp, but not to me.

If it sounds schizophrenic, it probably is.

Submitted by Anonymous User on December 19, 2005 - 7:13pm.

I really don't have a problem with the whole "Seperation of Church and State" thing, I have no problem with the church trying to influence government, (no matter what the denomination), as long as I always have the freedom to worship and believe as I choose. It's government telling me what I have to believe or how I should worship that would cause me trouble.

“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments.”
James Madison

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens.”
George Washington

"In this situation of this Assembly, groping as it were in the dark to find political truth, and scarce able to distinguish it when present to us, how has it happened, Sir, that we have not hitherto once thought of humbly applying to the Father of lights to illuminate our understandings? I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth - that God governs in the affairs of men."
Thomas Jefferson (Adressing the 1st Constitutional Convention)

"Men must be governed by God,
or they will be ruled by tyrants."
William Penn

Submitted by rlp on December 19, 2005 - 9:02pm.

I think you've described the separation of church and state exactly as it is. Christians are not prohibited from participating in government. We are citizens, after all. BUT the government shall not establish an official religion that gets preferential treatment and is taught and advocated in tax supported institutions.

Submitted by Pascale Soleil on December 20, 2005 - 9:18am.

I tried to listen to the mp3 of this show, at http://stream.publicbroadcasting.net/ros/open_source_051219.mp3 ~ and downloaded an hour's worth of silence.

There doesn't seem to be any email address or webmaster contact on the Lydon's site to provide feedback...

Perhaps RLP has the clout to call this to their attention?

both2and: beyond binary

Submitted by rlp on December 20, 2005 - 10:16am.

I have no clout that I know of, but I can ask.

Submitted by mia_a_muse on December 20, 2005 - 4:07pm.

I missed the radio broadcast but would love to hear it - is that possible? Was it recorded? Thanks, Mia

Submitted by Brent Lee on December 21, 2005 - 1:14pm.

They have the show posted at http://www.radioopensource.org/

Submitted by mia_a_muse on December 22, 2005 - 6:55am.

Thanks for letting me know. Kudos to rlp for his participation and comments - it was an interesting discussion.

Submitted by hevwc on December 20, 2005 - 7:36pm.

You held your own with some high powered media guys. Congratulations for speaking for many of us.
Elizabeth

Submitted by Anonymous User on December 22, 2005 - 9:30am.

I heard the show. Great job, preacher. I'm actually not a Christian anymore, but I still think Jesus was just as radical as you make him out to be. That Sermon on the Mount, that is some seriously hard truth to try to live.