Dear RLP

October 30, 2006 - 11:30am

Dear RLP,

I am distraught right now. I have done something terrible that I didn't mean to and it looks like it stands a good chance of destroying my marriage. I feel so lost and alone right now. I've been crying and screaming all night but I'm not doing anything stupid. I desperately hope you can give some words, perhaps your own, perhaps from the bible, that might offer some hope for me to grasp.

You are the closest I've been to a religious leader in some time because my wife and I couldn't find a church that seemed right to us when we moved. Sorry to come crawling but I don't feel like there's anyone else I could contact.

Thank you, and God bless,

Mike

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Dear Mike

Wow, this is a tough one. I don't know you or your wife. I don't know your history or any details about what you've done. I don't know if this is a first offense or another chapter in a history of behaviors that will perhaps be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

You don't need to write back and give me any more information. I simply want you to understand why I can't be specifically helpful to you as you try to figure out what to do next.

What I can say is that two people who want desperately for their marriage to work can almost always find a way to make it work. Of course, they must both desire healing and be prepared to work hard at mending the relationship. I hope that is true about you and your wife. I hope you are hurting and regretful and confused, but both still wanting to find a way to make this marriage work. If that is the case, I have one BIG word of advice.

Don't try to fix this yourself. It is likely that you will not be able to do that. If you two keep this problem a secret and try to sort it out yourselves, you will probably fail. Sometimes, when a marriage is in trouble, the things you do to try to help the situation and cope with your own grief and remorse are exactly the sort of things that cause your spouse to become sadder, angrier, more depressed, etc.  Vicious cycles abound in these situations. You do your best to help her, but you only end up making her more angry. She does her best to relate to you, but you become even more isolated.

It's called being stuck. And if this is a serious as you say it is, my guess is that you are stuck already.

Sometimes you run into a couple who has been married for - I don't know, a thousand years or something -  and they proudly announce that they never needed any damn counseling. They worked through their problems all by themselves, thank you very much, and look how long they have been married. But if you look closely at their relationship, the intimacy is gone. They managed to stay in the same house, but there is nothing left to the relationship except paying the bills and sharing an air conditioner.

You don't want that. So don't try to do this alone. Get help now. Find a counselor or a pastor or someone with some knowledge and experience to sit down with you and help you work through this. A serious counselor will pay close attention to your families of origin and your history as a couple. There are no shortcuts.

It's hard to get started, so MAKE YOURSELF pick up the phone and make the appointment.

You wanted hope, so here it is: If you both want a healthy marriage, and you are both willing to work - HARD, then there is hope for you. Many people find that their marriages are richer and more fulfilling after they have rebuilt them. This is your chance to set things right.

rlp

p.s. - Write me and let me know what happens, if you like. By the time you get this you can know that I've already prayed for you.

This letter, like all that I post here, is used with the permission of the one who sent it.

 

Submitted by atticus on October 30, 2006 - 2:38pm.

damn, this is good! you should get paid for doing this...unfortunately there are not that many "serious" and good counselors out there....one friend of mine who is a psychologist says that everyone should get 5 free sessions a lifetime...what a better world we'd live in...well, anyway, this shows your forte, g.clear, clear words that incite action.

Submitted by jeremyca on October 30, 2006 - 3:46pm.

I can say for myself that praying with and knowing that Gordon was there for me in some dark hours in my early marriage made all the difference on how I relate to my husband. It is one thing to have an easy time in marriage, I guess for me, the roughest part of marriage taught me what was important to fight for and to change and adapt. People make mistakes, but who doesn't??? Is there the capacity to forgive and the opportunity to see the err and not do it again?

But God forgives, and so does man and woman, maybe not at the same speed but time and prayer heals, if you believe in the power of forgiveness. We shall pray for you and your wife. It is TOO EASY to give up and walk away when issues present themselves in whatever form. Grace comes to us in the walking through the darkness to find the light on the other side.

Finding the will to love through the rough spots is a real testament to ones faith and ability to work through issues that are extremely hard and painful. I pray that you find courage and wisdom and the fortitude to find the answers you seem to desperately need in this hour of your life.

Know that I am praying for you both.

Jeremy

Submitted by paigeb on October 30, 2006 - 8:46pm.

"It is TOO EASY to give up and walk away when issues present themselves in whatever form. Grace comes to us in the walking through the darkness to find the light on the other side."

Forgive me, Jeremy---but that is a steaming pile. You clearly have NO idea how hard it can be to give up and walk away...

Mike---I wish you and your wife the best. Counseling can help, but only if you are open, honest, and really love your wife enough to change whatever it is that is harming your marriage.

Submitted by rlp on November 1, 2006 - 7:51am.

My wish is that you would not tell someone that something they said is a "steaming pile." I mean, why do that? It only puts them on the defensive. And usually, it ends up that what they have said can be taken many ways.

Some people do walk away too easily. They don't give a relationship a chance. That happens. And so what he said is valid for that scenario. And other people ought to walk away from a relationship, to protect themselves, but they do not. In that scenario, I can see what you are saying.

My point is, say what you think, but try to avoid insulting other people.

Submitted by tom reindl on October 30, 2006 - 9:44pm.

Geez!

Are you a preacher or something? Good advices.

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 31, 2006 - 6:33am.

Thanks :)

Submitted by Mark Goodyear on October 31, 2006 - 11:11am.

Good advice, RLP. Mike, listen to him, man.
I know I speak for a lot of readers here when I say this:
We're praying for you and your wife and your marriage.

Submitted by OldPoet on October 31, 2006 - 1:39pm.

OldPoet
Five Free Sessions!!! Great idea. Your psychologist friend is a genius, Atticus. Can we make some people go, if they don't want to use them? Also, I cannot talk that fast. I would have to sign up for way more. Actually, I did. Worth every penny. Mike, go. Even if your wife won't go, you go. Anyone who is hurting and did "something terrible" and wants help deserves to get it.

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 31, 2006 - 2:08pm.

Sometimes people in this situation don't see counseling sessions as the rich opportunity they actually are. That's what concerns me about one couple I know going through some stuff right now -- one of them seems to view "having" to go talk about their problems with a third party is punishment. So they've only been twice in the last six months. That's rarely, if ever, enough effort to make a difference.

Submitted by atticus on October 31, 2006 - 2:20pm.

i agree, old poet. counseling/therapy is a wonderful thing. (and 5 is probably not enough for anyone serious about making changes in relating and reacting)

Submitted by Anonymous User on October 31, 2006 - 2:35pm.

caution: counseling is good only if the counselor is good. do a little research first.

but, don't be embarrassed to ask for recommendations. you'll find out that a lot of people have travelled this road before you. you are not alone!

Submitted by jeremyca on October 31, 2006 - 9:50pm.

Paige B..

I am gay, I am 40 years Old I am HIV positive now 13 years. I am also MARRIED. I have walked away from relationships and one almost killed me literally. I have faced death several times. My husband is Bi-polar and is sick... I KNOW what it is like to walk away AND I know what it feels like to STAY.... Don't judge me before you understand my experience. Shit happens, relationships and marriages get into trouble. I am married so I DO KNOW - I get it... I offered some wisdom and thank you for discounting 40 years of wisdom.

I know what mistakes are and I made many of them in my life, but you know, you do something wrong and you either try to work it out, you learn from your lessons and patch up your marriage OR you walk ...

It's all up to a god damned choice...

We all have choices to make - Pray God you make the right one before you hurt another person or screw up a marriage or a relationship. Male or female - gay or straight, we all have choices... So before you judge my share as a crock, maybe you should come to my blog and read a little of my experience, thank you very much...

Thank you for making me insane at this very moment. Until you walk a day in my shoes, you have no right to judge what I say to whom.You don't know me - so you dont OWN the RIGHT to judge what my experince has been as to being real or shit !!!

Sometimes you should just write your comment from your own persepctive and your OWN experience and call it a day instead of attacking someone who took the time before many of you did to offer some wisdom.

Some people are so STOOOPID...

Thank God I am sober today.

Nuff said...
hateful woman...

Submitted by rlp on November 1, 2006 - 7:53am.

Jeremy,

I understand your reaction. You were insulted. I noted my reaction to that under Paige's comment. So I don't blame you for your angry reaction. But maybe we could let this be the end of it.

Submitted by abiding on November 2, 2006 - 2:49pm.

Speaking from experience I can assure you there is hope.

Submitted by Anonymous User on November 8, 2006 - 1:18pm.

Maybe no one will read this now, as it's old...but I want to apologize to both jeremyca and RLP.

I WAS writing from my own experience. The experience that nearly led me to take my own life before I could leave my marriage. A marriage that, by most accounts, wouldn't "qualify" for a get-out-of-marriage-free card (i.e, no abuse, addiction, adultery, etc.)

I was just feeling very down and defensive over the notion that I could have saved my marriage if I had just tried harder or made better choices. I ask your forgiveness for my insensitivity. I'll try to do better next time.

Submitted by paigeb on November 8, 2006 - 1:20pm.

Forgot to log in...the above comment was from me. Again, my apologies.