How To Read The Bible #5

January 1, 2007 - 12:11am
Note: In this video I mention a special offer from Vivabooks if you wish to purchase a book I mention. But that offer won't be in effect until sometime Monday or Tuesday morning. I'll post information here when the special is available.

 

 

Number 5 in the series on how to read the Bible.

rlp

 

Submitted by Anonymous User on January 1, 2007 - 1:08am.

What do you think of the Harper Collins Study Bible produced in conjunction with the Society of Biblical Literature or the Oxford Annotated Study Bible edited by Bruce Metzger? Both are in your favorite translation - the NRSV. I'd like to hear your take.

Thanks for the series.

Submitted by Anonymous User on January 1, 2007 - 9:39am.

The Oxford Annotated has been recommended in a number of situations where a good study bible was needed.

-bigbrotherinlaw

Submitted by rlp on January 1, 2007 - 9:53am.

I'm not familiar with them. But ANYTHING done by Bruce Metzger will be great. And this is irresponsible, but the name, "Society of Biblical Literature" sounds like a good organization. Anyway, I bet both are fine. Really, you only want to avoid something that was done by the Southern Baptist Convention, for example. You know, a group with a hard edged doctrinal axe to grind.

Submitted by Keith on January 1, 2007 - 8:30am.

I was looking for an excuse to get out with a toddler on a rainy Monday in Queens. I think we'll get over to B&N and deal with the New Returned Standard Version.

Submitted by rlp on January 1, 2007 - 9:54am.

lol

Keith, I thought about this only after. I should have started with a disclaimer. Don't buy anything just yet. sorry about that.

Submitted by Keith on January 1, 2007 - 12:27pm.

Nah, real learning's never tidy. And I didn't get over to B&N anyway--I figured out how to keep the toddler dry, but Daddy and the book would have been mush by the time we got there. Maybe tomorrow after the day gig.

I had another paragraph here about a non-Amazon website to buy books, but on re-reading, I realized it could take sales away from Viva. Duh. Sorry about that!

Submitted by Karin on January 1, 2007 - 10:22am.

I've been wondering about a Bible commentary, but the one I've been thinking of is rather large and unwieldy. Being made aware of Study Bibles other than the NIV, and that some are based on the NRSV, my own favourite translation, is very timely.

This Oxford Annotated Study Bible sounds like it might suit me well, especially the 2000 edition, even if Metzger doesn't seem to be involved in that.

I'm finding this series on how to read the Bible very interesting. Thanks for taking the trouble to do it, RLP. I only wish I'd been told all this when I started out reading the Bible 20 years ago, but maybe there is value in finding out the hard way.

Best wishes for a Happy, Healthy and Properous New Year to you and the family.

Submitted by iandunn on January 1, 2007 - 11:00am.

I've found Ryken's Bible Handbook to be helpful sometimes. It's not everything I was looking for, but the best I've found so far. It starts with a chapter about the nature of the Bible (how it came together, various literary genres, etc) and then has a chapter on each book. It's probably a little more conservative than you'd prefer, but it's from the intelligent, sincere end of the conservative spectrum. I try to read the corresponding chapter before starting a new book.

I'll have to check out the Learning Bible, it sounds like it might have some of the things that I wish Rykens did, like explinations of specific historic/cultural quarks. Rykens tends to be an overvew.

Submitted by Anonymous User on January 1, 2007 - 12:59pm.

what are your feelings on the Zondervan NIV Study Bible? (it's content, not Zondervan's being a Rupert Murdoch company, which I just found out a second ago- ugh).

Submitted by rlp on January 1, 2007 - 1:15pm.

I don't know it. I don't want to give the impression that I sample and review materials like this. I don't even use study bibles myself. You generally use the best tools you have, and mine are considerably beyond that. But I will say that the Zondervan name doesn't exactly inspire confidence, though they probably put out some good stuff here and there.

Submitted by Anonymous User on January 2, 2007 - 10:17am.

I am also a proud owmer of a Zondervan NIV study bible, which okay, I bought because the cover looked kinda progressive and cool, foggy oak tree image said "smart and edgy". So I did the test with Isaiah and sure enough this bible claims one author and to deny this is to deny 'the supernatural element of God's revelation". Whoa. Thanks for the insight. I'll be more discerning in the future. Are their some publisher names you can shout out that are more scholarly than others? Forgive me if you already did this, I had a two year old on my lap while watching the last clip. Thank you for this and where were you during my Sunday School years?

Submitted by rlp on January 2, 2007 - 8:18pm.

Avoid zondervan. You can start there. Um, I suggest the Learning Bible by the American Bible Society.

FYI, the reason we know that Isaiah was written by at least two people is that the first part (1-39) appears to be before the exile, and the second half after. Actually, some have suggested perhaps three authors. The thing is, the book itself seems to clearly be written by more than one person. The only reason to deny this is out of some presumption that only a single author can be possible if one is to have faith or have a high view of scripture or inspiration. But that's just an idea that has no basis in itself.

Here is a link with more info:

http://www.crivoice.org/isaiahunity.html

Submitted by Anonymous User on January 3, 2007 - 12:39am.

I was suprised to see Zondervan get the thumbs-down. Not that I've given the matter much thought. But the New Bible Commentary, from IVP, also comes down (after lengthy discussion) on the side of single authorship for Isaiah.

So I guess I'd be curious to know more of the basis for RLP's dim view of Zondervan, and also of his view of IVP. I've got no agenda here; just trying gather impressions.

Submitted by rlp on January 3, 2007 - 7:39am.

My impresion of Zondervan is that their aim is to please the conservative, evangelical wing of Christianity. And they do so in a hyped, marketed, slick kind of way. Just my opinion. Zondervan will never take any theological risks. They are not a publishing house that is looking for excellence, scholorship, or truth. They are cranking out the stuff that "Precious Moments Christian Bookstores" are begging for.

Look, I don't dispute their right to exist, and I'm sure they sometimes do some good stuff. But when I see their name on a book, I don't expect to see anything edgy, new, or risky. How ironic, considering the fact that Christianity is meant to be all of those things.

Submitted by Karin on January 3, 2007 - 7:31am.

IVP does generally take a more literalist stance on the Bible than some. If you want a literalist interpretation that's up to you, but having tried that way of looking at the Bible I wouldn't recommend it.

Submitted by wordalone on January 6, 2007 - 3:54pm.

What do you think about the TNIV? I got myself a copy of it and it looks pretty good. It uses gender-inclusive language and seems to be more up-to-date in scholarship than the NRSV. It translates Mark 1:41 where even the NRSV does not; however, that is questionable. I'm beginning to also like the ESV b/c it has the flavor of the RSV but is much more up-to-date.

Do you have a favorite series of academic commentary? The one's I use are usually Word Biblical Commentary, New Interpreter's, Anchor Bible, and Interpretation.
- Kevin

Submitted by rlp on January 16, 2007 - 2:54pm.

the tniv is good, but they got such a beating from the NIV audience that they don't seem to advertise it much. As for series, I think anchor is good. But the best stuff can usually only be found in single volumn commentaries.